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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby Forenzer on Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:58 am

Here are some incomplete theories but they'll give you guys something to think about:

1) Ishida's dad has something to do with Ichigo's powers, this could be possible because Ishida's dad and Ichigo's dad (whose name i have forgotten btw) have known each ohter for a long time.

2) Ichigo's father himself was a Vaizard (although the term vaizard would be wrong here cause the vaizards wouldn't know this)

3) Ichigo was adopted :p
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby Judaime on Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:52 am

i just wanted to say....what if Aizen was really a human too? there the reason why he was scared of ichigos growth and all?
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby tite on Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:30 pm

Forenzer wrote:Here are some incomplete theories but they'll give you guys something to think about:

1) Ishida's dad has something to do with Ichigo's powers, this could be possible because Ishida's dad and Ichigo's dad (whose name i have forgotten btw) have known each ohter for a long time.

2) Ichigo's father himself was a Vaizard (although the term vaizard would be wrong here cause the vaizards wouldn't know this)

3) Ichigo was adopted :p


1. How would a quincy have anything to do with Ichigo's power?
2. We don't even know when Isshin left SS, so we have no way of knowing if hollowfication was even around then. If Isshin was a Vizard, why would he not still be one? I know he lost his powers, but why would he only regain his shinigami power? When Urahara talks to Isshin about Ichigo after the Grand Fisher fight, he tells him about the Vizards contacting Ichigo. So if Isshin was a Vizard as well, why would they have not contacted him also?
3. I have no arguement against that, but I doubt it.

Judaime wrote:i just wanted to say....what if Aizen was really a human too? there the reason why he was scared of ichigos growth and all?

Interesting idea, but how would Aizen have gained Shinigami powers?
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby wakachukie on Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:46 pm

:( Im in a sad mood right now...

Ichigo is so powerful because he IS HUMAN (i.e. a real person in a fake world)

PLS join the One Piece crew RED HAIRED PIRATES
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby Zero-Legacy on Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:55 pm

I have never heard of ichigo's dad being a vaizard himself, and if this were true, i would probably say the hollow that was inside him died.

Also, just because ichigo is human, does not mean he will be "so powerful". He is powerful because of the hollow inside him, take that away and he couldn't even match up to a captain-class shinigami, why? because he relies too heavily upon the hollow mask, and even not using the mask, he will still be gaining some power from it.

Also, you would think ichigos dad (if were true, that he is indeed a vaizard) would reveal himself to ichigo and help him out, because with the power that ichigo currently possesses, with an unmastered bankai (who knows what potential a mastered bankai would have for ichigo) if the hollow were to take over and gain control of this power.. and master a Bankai 2nd ressurection combo-form, it could mean the end for everyone.
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby narutogenius442 on Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:59 pm

wakachukie wrote:
Zero-Legacy wrote:If i may say,

Ichigo is the only one of his kind, to produce a hollow within him while gaining shinigami powers (well rather, awakening them), as the other vizards were used as an experiment to gain their masks, of which they don't seem to use for too long, so i'd say Ichigo is the successor out of them, as they were mere experiments.

Now, when ichigo first became a shinigami, he had a normal, overly large sword.. which he couldn't talk too, but it was zangetsu.

Once he reclaimed his shinigami powers, his sword went into a perma-release state.

Now this is the dumb part, in the latest episodes, zangetsu was completely removed from ichigo, yet his sword stayed in its released form? (Why?)

Now onto ichigos hollow, i believe that he is half hollow half zanpukto, his hollow powers are unique, but his zanpukto powers are the same as zangetsu's, cause as you saw in the latest episodes, ichigo was still able to use getsuga, hence zangetsu's move, so it shouldn't work if zangetsu was outside of ichigos body.

Now i believe ichigo's hollow could possibly be the strongest person there is, in every way, if he truly does have zanpukto powers alongside hollow powers, he can master two forms, and because his in a shinigami's body, he has access to what they can learn aswell, hence, the power he possesses.

My theory agrees with yours except that Ichigo totally stole what remained of Rukia's Shini powers (save for basic kido) in episode 1 until he got his own later on. She just awoke his dormant powers.
first of all he didnt still her powers she gave him his powers to save his family do yall even pay attenchun to what yall say
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby wakachukie on Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:30 pm

I don't, but somebody, tite, and a few others do!
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby somebody on Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:41 pm

haha yes i'm very concerned about what random people think about my theories on manga intended for japanese kids. 8-)
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby Zero-Legacy on Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:15 am

So like, i just read the latest manga..

I must say, i was diapointed =(

I don't wanna see byakuya and zaraki (even tho he can make things interesting), atm i just wanna see this new mask >.< of which he cannot use atm either.. sooo i say he has to remaster his new mask like he did with this first mask... maybe he'll even have to fight his hollow again lol
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Re: Ichigo's Powers *theories*

Postby wakachukie on Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:30 am

Zero-Legacy wrote:So like, i just read the latest manga..

I must say, i was diapointed =(

I don't wanna see byakuya and zaraki (even tho he can make things interesting), atm i just wanna see this new mask >.< of which he cannot use atm either.. sooo i say he has to remaster his new mask like he did with this first mask... maybe he'll even have to fight his hollow again lol


Well in all seriousness, those two just saved Ichigo from totally dying. Because without mask, there is no way for him to win this... unless he had another soul trip and learned a new zanpakuto ability
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