Im getting fed up with People saying Naruto is the strongest

[mightguy17]

This question is for all you people who think Naruto is the strongest character right at this moment.I just dont understand why.Naruto has shadow clones,rasengan,summoning,sage mode raseshuriken.I'll admit there strong but he still isnt close to being the strongest.He's done things that make it seem like he is but get real,he's the main character.They have to make him look good sometimes.If you compare him to his friends(genin,chuunins,and Neji) then yes he's the best,but he cant beat the REAL shinobi.Naruto vs Hidan.No I know what your thinking but no.Hidan wouldnt die from Raseshuriken.Thats all Naruto has for a secret weapon.Naruto vs Sasori.He isnt able to move like Chiyo from poisons and needles.He cant beat him either.Naruto vs Orochimaru.I really dont like saying it but I think he'd beat Orochimaru.Naruto vs Jiraiya.He wouldnt stand a chance unless he was in sage mode and Jiraiya wasnt.If he was then Naruto would have a chance ONLY because Jiraiya would curiously play around.If he was serious then Naruto would dieee.Naruto vs Pein.If pain was serious then hes done for.Enough said for him.Naruto vs Itachi.LOL.Naruto vs Sasuke.Sasuke would win.Naruto wouldnt kill Sasuke and Sasuke would kill him.If naruto tried shadow clones then Sasuke would see them with Sharingan.If he goes for rasengan Sasuke would lengthen his chidori and kill him before he even got close.Ohhhhh here it comes...SAGE MODEEEEEEEEE.''ohhhh but whats this Amaterasu hits Naruto.Raseshuriken....Susanoo.BLOCKED.Naruto vs Gaara.No contest.Gaara wouldnt get touched.Do you see what this says.Im sorry if I went too far but I just dont understand.Tell me <_<

[Yondaime0913]

I see your point, but you have a few things wrong. Naruto is different from other ninjas. He does things differently, but not because he is the main character, but because he is just plain... ummm... awesome. Naruto vs. Jiraiya, unfortunately, Naruto would win. Jiraiya hasn't even mastered Sage Mode, unlike Naruto. Naruto vs. Pain, you must not read the manga because Naruto PWND Pain. Sucksuke vs. Naruto, obviously, Sucksuke would win because Naruto doesn't have any killing intent, though, their power wouldn't be so much apart.

Naruto has his way of doing things, which distinguish him from others. Thats all there is to it.

[kakashi19283]

You know the reason? Let me tell you. Naruto was always a noob, a nobody, a weakling. Suddenly, he got Sage Mode, 20 huge frogs helping him, throwing Chakra shurikens around like crazy, using smoke bombs and all of other cool stuff. That was such a huge change for Naruto and it gave people the impression like he's unbeatable. It gave them that impression because Naruto really did improve 20-fold, if not more. But he was so much behind Jiraiya, Sasuke, Itachi, Pain, Raikage and many others, that even such a crazy boost wouldn't get him close enough. People just mis-calculate stuff. It's obvious that:

Madara
KillerBee
Sasuke
Raikage
Kisame
Probably some other Kages
Maybe Gaara

Can beat Naruto, and all of those are alive. Out of the ones death:

Hashirama
Hiruzen
Minato
Jiraiya
Pain

and many others.

Naruto still sucks, so people, GET A GRIP.

[DevilDante]

Kakashi i may agree with your list even tough Gaara might be pushing the limits. But you are confusing me, and you should decide yourself. When i´m lurking over a few threads regarding the involvement of Naruto and Sasuke, you actually mentioned several times that Naruto might be stronger. Or is it possible to exist someone who attempts and successfully changes your mind? And tricks you to say otherwise.

It bothered me and i had to make this call. Don´t think of this as being rude tough. ^_^
I wonder if its only you floating in confusion, or me, the blind one? -_-
Btw, i like reading yours and Ozy's walls of text, it often contains interesting info. xD

List of people who can defeat Naruto. (Alive)

- Madara
- Raikage
- KillerBee
- Maybe Kisame since im not aware of his full potential.
- Maybe Sasuke -_-'' He obtained Susano and is in poss of many dangerous abilities.

Also, seeing as we have seen Narutos abilities in the manga, i cant really differentiate whether Raikage or anyone else is faster than Naruto himself, including other traits as well. Anime should be easier, or is it just me?

[Bear Detective]

That's all kind of your opinion, the reason Naruto wins most of his fights is because hes first off unpredictable and for me hes the greatest genius in the show when it comes to combat strategy, he uses his skills perfectly. Hes not the strongest but hes up there, I think hes at least stronger than Sasuke.

And hey, who knows, maybe a rasenshuriken could cut through Susano'o and merc sasuke.

Edit: and one more thing, everyone always goes on about how Madara could defeat everyone, maybe old Madara but the current Tobi hasn't done jack. He teleports and orders people around but he hasn't harmed a fly in the entire series so far, in fact I don't even think he can hurt anyone until he becomes complete.

[Yondaime0913]

That's all kind of your opinion, the reason Naruto wins most of his fights is because hes first off unpredictable and for me hes the greatest genius in the show when it comes to combat strategy, he uses his skills perfectly. Hes not the strongest but hes up there, I think hes at least stronger than Sasuke.

And hey, who knows, maybe a rasenshuriken could cut through Susano'o and merc sasuke.

I agree with him. Naruto might not be the strongest, but remember this, Naruto is a child. He's getting stronger. All those people in DD's and Kakashi's list are adult ninjas who have gained experience through harsh training and battles. Naruto is strong for someone his age group. I bet in 10 years he'll be a pwning beast.
Just keep in mind his age and his inexperience. You got to admit he pulled some good stuff other adult ninjas would never have done.

[Bear Detective]

That's all kind of your opinion, the reason Naruto wins most of his fights is because hes first off unpredictable and for me hes the greatest genius in the show when it comes to combat strategy, he uses his skills perfectly. Hes not the strongest but hes up there, I think hes at least stronger than Sasuke.

And hey, who knows, maybe a rasenshuriken could cut through Susano'o and merc sasuke.

I agree with him. Naruto might not be the strongest, but remember this, Naruto is a child. He's getting stronger. All those people in DD's and Kakashi's list are adult ninjas who have gained experience through harsh training and battles. Naruto is strong for someone his age group. I bet in 10 years he'll be a pwning beast.
Just keep in mind his age and his inexperience. You got to admit he pulled some good stuff other adult ninjas would never have done.

Yeah, and another thing, Naruto could definetely beat Hidan.

[teflon]

lol u ppl are crazy the strongest and the smartest fighter doesn't win the fight it the person with the strongest will to fight...look back every one that naruto and sasuske fight was stronger then them but it was naruto will to fight an sasuske will to live that help then to win.

[mightguy17]

I see your point, but you have a few things wrong. Naruto is different from other ninjas. He does things differently, but not because he is the main character, but because he is just plain... ummm... awesome. Naruto vs. Jiraiya, unfortunately, Naruto would win. Jiraiya hasn't even mastered Sage Mode, unlike Naruto. Naruto vs. Pain, you must not read the manga because Naruto PWND Pain. Sucksuke vs. Naruto, obviously, Sucksuke would win because Naruto doesn't have any killing intent, though, their power wouldn't be so much apart.

Naruto has his way of doing things, which distinguish him from others. Thats all there is to it.

It does not matter if he didnt master it,Jiraiya still knew greater techniques to finish off Naruto.Plus if they both tried to summon toads,who's side do you think they'll pick.The guy who lived and trained with them for 40 years or some kid who thinks he can do everything.And Naruto vs Pein.Wow you must of saw when it was the end or something.From what I saw he was about to be captured.Ohhh and if it was a fight to the death(which it wasnt,has to catch him alive)then Pein would of killed him quicky.When Naruto had those blades in him he couldnt control his chakra.And if at that moment Pein wanted to kill him,he'd do it.Only reason he didnt was again,NEEDS HIM ALIVE.Naruto vs Sasuke,lol really.Not just his killing intent also because Naruto's attacks are mostly close range without sage mode.Even if he was in it he only has three shots of raseshuriken.Sasuke is too fast for him to hit him.Ohhh does not matter anyways he wouldnt throw it at him

[mightguy17]

That's all kind of your opinion, the reason Naruto wins most of his fights is because hes first off unpredictable and for me hes the greatest genius in the show when it comes to combat strategy, he uses his skills perfectly. Hes not the strongest but hes up there, I think hes at least stronger than Sasuke.

And hey, who knows, maybe a rasenshuriken could cut through Susano'o and merc sasuke.

I agree with him. Naruto might not be the strongest, but remember this, Naruto is a child. He's getting stronger. All those people in DD's and Kakashi's list are adult ninjas who have gained experience through harsh training and battles. Naruto is strong for someone his age group. I bet in 10 years he'll be a pwning beast.
Just keep in mind his age and his inexperience. You got to admit he pulled some good stuff other adult ninjas would never have done.

Yeah, and another thing, Naruto could definetely beat Hidan.

....HOW? Naruto wouldnt think of the things Shikamaru could.Lol I cant see it.